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Posted at 9:58 pm, 7th July 2002
Welcome to Ensign Kim's Science Talk. Here we talk about sci fi talk and can it be possible. Tonight's episode:
Faster Than Light Travel

Well, I say it is possible. But I dont have any evidence except, Many years ago they said goping faster than 30MPH would kill you! Also if there is a speed limit why can black holes over power them!

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Posted at 11:06 pm, 7th July 2002
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Also if there is a speed limit why can black holes over power them!


because they probably haven't tested an organic object at that speed yet, with an artificial Quantum Singularity

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Posted at 11:09 pm, 7th July 2002
If, you were going to make a 'warp drive' or FTLT(faster than light Travel) there are many factors, How could we counter each factor, first what factors are there.

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Posted at 11:13 pm, 7th July 2002
speed
power
a deflector dish
a warp engine
a warp core

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Posted at 11:18 pm, 7th July 2002
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speed
power
a deflector dish
a warp engine
a warp core


That is mostly fiction.

Factors are mostly, humans cant experience anything over G6. So you need something to stop the force. Then you need an engine that can make faster than light travel, a warp core but it doesn't have to be WARP.

1st Quation: How can we reach speeds above 300,000,000m/s iwth an UNMANNED ship.

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Posted at 11:26 pm, 7th July 2002
by controlling it with a a satellite system with every satellite being a booster to send extra power, power would be sent from a deflector on Earth, and the ship would have to have lots of fuel, perhaps we would send fuel packs by rocket that would attach to the ship to give more fuel, there would be 100 large fuel packs sent.

or a fast speed design on the space folding, something that has enough power to shorten space. and a wormhole to send a space station from earth through a wormhole and another station around Earth and the 2 will send some kind of energy pulse that will fold space

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Posted at 11:31 pm, 7th July 2002
I think if we can cause an anti proton explosion this can rip space and we could travel through 'SUB SPACE' faster where the 'laws of phyiscs' are in flux. then to get out we cause another anti matter explosion, NOTE ANTIMATTER has been discovered, but it can only stay stabel for a millionth of a second!

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Posted at 11:31 pm, 7th July 2002
Ok, this is good discussion material. According to Einstein's Theory of Relativity, when an object approaches light speed it slows down. This doesn't make sense to me because how can something go slower as it goes faster? My physics teacher tried to explain it to me one time but I don't see how that's possible. Light travels at c, but they are not energy or matter, but something in between called photons.

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1st Quation: How can we reach speeds above 300,000,000m/s iwth an UNMANNED ship.

We need a fuel source that can produce enough energy to attain light speed. Scientists have been able to develop antimatter, but it always explodes soon after it's made.

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Posted at 11:34 pm, 7th July 2002
scooter said:
Ok, this is good discussion material. According to Einstein's Theory of Relativity, when an object approaches light speed it slows down. This doesn't make sense to me because how can something go slower as it goes faster?


this doesn't mean the ship slows down it means that time slows down for the people on the ship.

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Posted at 11:34 pm, 7th July 2002
If we could stabelise Anti Matter, you culd then studie it. see if you can use it as fuel. Am i right?

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Posted at 11:37 pm, 7th July 2002
yes, you are right,

you would probably have to invent the forcefield and put the antimatter in it and seal it up then put a forcefield tube to a matter source in a forcefield container then let go of part of the forcefield to open the tube to let the antimatter flow through

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Posted at 11:40 pm, 7th July 2002
2ndQuation: How can we prevent us from being killed at high speeds....

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Posted at 11:44 pm, 7th July 2002
with a deflector dish, and you could have everyone wear oxygen masks and a seatbelt

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Posted at 11:46 pm, 7th July 2002
To study antimatter, we would need to put it in a really fast particle accelerator. Faster than the ones we have now.

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2ndQuation: How can we prevent us from being killed at high speeds....

How about Newton's Laws? If we can make a REALLY strong opposing force it would cancel out the >6G force on us and we wouldn't be killed.

Anybody know what the current top speed record is? (convert from mach to m/s please)

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Posted at 11:47 pm, 7th July 2002
We are talking about 100Gs here, what would a deflector dish do? Seat belts you have them at G6, and people loss consiences. In Voyager once, I remember that they were in a fight with the Kazon and artiffical damperners were offline.
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"Tom Can we go to warp?"- Says Janeway

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"Voyager would make it, but we'd be stains on the back wall" - Tom Replys


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Posted at 11:49 pm, 7th July 2002
A deflector dish just pushes dust and rocks out of the way.

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Posted at 11:53 pm, 7th July 2002
Ahh, that could answer a few questions. As in the Course Oblivion the deflector goes offline and the warp drive is going to crash...
Any way you need some fourm of Artifical Dampeners. This could like have messuered the force going <--------------- and then make a fake force going that --------------> so in the ship it feels like ity is at rest. Would this be possible and phyiscal?

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Posted at 12:03 am, 8th July 2002
I don't think we've figured out how to do that yet. If somebody figures it out, I want one for my car, and I can think of a few elevators that could use them.

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Posted at 12:05 am, 8th July 2002
well, it would probably be called a force generator
this would scan what the force level is and use artificial air or something that matches the force level

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Posted at 12:07 am, 8th July 2002
Yeah, i agree. So... what other factors am i forgetting someone make a q3. please.

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Posted at 12:11 am, 8th July 2002
okay
question 3: how do we choose a destination, we don't have sensors?

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Posted at 12:13 am, 8th July 2002
Choosing a destination is easy. There are lots of extra-solar planets that have been discovered and I'm sure scientists would love to visit those star systems and see how many planets are in them and whether there are any like Earth.

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Posted at 12:18 am, 8th July 2002
I wish technology would advance so we can scan space more. If so i would can for a planet with unknown elements and commponds... also life...

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Posted at 12:21 am, 8th July 2002
the top speed record for the world is mach 4.3 - that is unknown in miles or meters a second

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Posted at 12:23 am, 8th July 2002
As a matter of fact, instead of just looking for planets by their movement around stars, scientists are now also looking for planets by the molecules in their atmospheres. Specifically oxygen and carbon.

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Posted at 12:24 am, 8th July 2002
1462 Meters Per second
compared to 300,000,000 meters per second thats nothing. well it is a small fraction. Times 1462 by 205198.35841313269493844049247606 that many times to get 300,000,000

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Posted at 12:26 am, 8th July 2002
the fastest our current spaceships can go is something like 100 thousand kilometres a sec or something, I dunno.

that decimal number is too big, can you round it off

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Posted at 12:28 am, 8th July 2002
1462/c = 4.873E-6% or (4.873 x 10^-6)% for those of us who don't understand exponential notation.

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Posted at 12:30 am, 8th July 2002
so ur saying that 146 is 6% of speed of light?, I understand the scietif notions, it is simple like 1000 = 1 X 10 ^3

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Posted at 12:32 am, 8th July 2002
yes, thats what he is saying (I think)
and our current spaceship speed has to be multiplied by 3000 to be at light speed

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Ensign_Kim said:
so ur saying that 146 is 6% of speed of light?, I understand the scietif notions, it is simple like 1000 = 1 X 10 ^3


No, no, no!
1462/c = (4.873E-6)% or (4.873 x 10^-6)%
The percent applys to the whole thing. It is 4.873 millionth of a percent.
This is scientific notation: 4.873 x 10^-6
This is exponential notation: 4.873E-6
I used exponential notation before and people didn't understand it they were asking, "What's the E mean?" So I convert to scientific notation for them.

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CONGRATS 2 CARLOS 4 GETTING PREMOTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH WELL DONE.

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